If you look at Ken Tully's submission is 1998, he was the executive director. Cathy Denham was the chair person of the Board, which created the combined North Island Fishing Center Society to disperse the fisheries money from fishery renewal. Cathy Denham was an employee of that program called FRAM Is this not conflict of interest? Giving yourself a job with public money? You be the judge.
The top one is from Hamilton, the accountant, it's the fact the way they are. The bottom one is Ken Tully, the manager with his bullshit. Look, both are the same date.